I dont like rap and it has nothing to do with race.
I think ppl forget that just bc they’re not actively thinkin “I dont like rap/hip hop bc it’s black music” doesn’t mean that anti-black racism doesn’t figure into those blanket statements/opinions in the 1st place. OPINIONS AREN’T FORMED IN A VACUUM.Yup, this exactly.
And in my experience, more often than not, after talking to these “I don’t like hip hop/rap AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE” people for .5 seconds, their anti-black racism shows anyways.
You are both totally right and your logic is flawless. You have unraveled the complexities of human nature in just a few sentences, which is at least commendable. Thanks for making me realize that, just because people aren’t actively thinking “i don’t like tacos because it’s mexican food” doesn’t mean that they’re not actually racist. They most probably are, especially if they’re white. And if they say that they’re allergic to an ingredient, i will now know that it’s probably their white supremacy manifesting itself in their bodily functions and oozing out of their nostrils when they sneeze.
…Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you on about.
I’m someone who doesn’t like rap music and doesn’t appreciate idiots making assumptions about why that is.
I don’t like hip-hop or rap, and it has nothing to do with race.
I don’t like it because as a rule? it’s pretty damn homophobic and it’s pretty misogynistic and I don’t like my music telling me that I can *beep* that *beep* up and *beep* the *beep* *beep*. Half the time, so many words are *beeeped* out that I can barely tell what they’re *beeping* saying.
Also, I really hate my sexuality being something that’s performed for the benefit of some man, ala “My Girlfriend’s Gotta Girlfriend” and that Nicki Minaj song about going to go see Usher and that Kanye song about Klondike Bars.
Which has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the fact that I find it distasteful and crude. So, yeah.Your painting of hip hop and rap as a “distasteful and crude” monolith is misinformed, ignorant, reductionist, and bigoted as fuck. Your choosing to magically remove the ties that hip hop and rap has to the African American community is only to alleviate any guilt you might have about your ignorant opinions of the genre. The blackness of hip hop and rap is inextricable with hip hop and rap. Simple as that. That can’t be ignored when people criticize it. You think you’re the first basic motherfuck to come out and say this shit? Really? Sit the fuck down.
TL:DR-Thanks for proving my point marvleously!
“Heard they’d do anything for a Klondike/ well, I’ll do anything for a blonde dyke/ and she’ll do anything for the limelight/ and we’ll do anything when the time’s right” —”Stronger”, Kanye West
“Y’all niggas intellects mad slow/ all ya fags know/ Claimin’ you bangin, you flamin’/ bet you could light your own cigarette with your asshole”
“I might rap tight as the snatch of a fat dyke” — “Fast Lane” —Eminem & Royce Da 5’9“How bought I cum all on your dick and then lick it off?/ I mean it’s somethin’ so funny when it get soft/ I like to play wit’ it, squeeze it like a stress ball/ He said he like to hear the sound of me slurpin it” -“Freaky Girl” —Nicki Minaj
Those are just a few of the examples I can think of off the top of my heard wherein rap and hip-hop are specifically crude, derogatory or discriminatory. That has nothing to do with the colour of the rapper’s skin (Eminem being white and all), and everything to do with the fact that I have no desire to monetarily or socially support a style of music that degrades others.
So why don’t you take that inchoate rage and go spew it somewhere else? I have no problems whatsoever with Black Culture or music—jazz, blues, gospel, funk and soul are all brilliant and challenging as a musician and I can appreciate them with full enthusiasm. I can appreciate the Black contribution to reggaeton and merengue and salsa. But I cannot in good faith support a musical genre that advocates ‘snitches get stitches’ and calling people ‘fat dykes’ and ‘faggots’, and I am well within my rights to say that I find the music unappealing and frankly, a little warped.
And I’ll even say it again: I don’t like rap, and it has nothing to do with race.Put your prejudice on the ground and step away from the mainstream.
How can a music genre possibly support something?
Dont get it twisted dont get it confused
The term snitch
Revolutionaries use
When the government got the hood rhymin the blues
Thats the term when the whole town lose
See something you better say something
Cause saving something aint worth sayin nothing
- Public Enemy - See something, Say Something
I’m dreaming of a world where a young little girl
doesn’t have to shake her ass at the class to get a referral
from a boy that she likes but she doesn’t like herself
thinking that boy’s like would help.
I’m dreaming of a world where God doesn’t hate the fags,
Where manifest destiny says you have to give it back,
Whatever you stole from whatever race whose owed anything
but mind you these are my dreams.
- Greydon Square - The Dream
Don’t brag ‘cause there’s trouble next door
Our species has always held that double edge sword
The more time that pass, we struggle to find our path
And every good accomplishment has a counterpart twice as bad
We lose touch living life so fast
And exhibit behaviour that can be defined as a psychopath
As we advance we lose the basics
And still divide people into races
And don’t realise superiority by pigmentation
Is nothing more than a figment of all our imaginations
Look at the science of eugenics
One of the worst crimes to be committed
Systematically sterilising people for half a century
Throwing them in ghettoes and calling it survival of the fittest
How smart is the man that’s blinded by conviction?
We don’t understand that certain laws are intrinsic
Rationalise genocide away and defend it
And naturalise the objectification of women
And their subservient position
See the brain is a prison
home to many maldispositions
- Prince EA - The Brain
Yep. Clearly all rap is misogynist, homophobic and violent.
Wow, this thread is insane, it just won’t die. It’s like that time the Lolitas got offended.
As I’ve said before: my main problem with the genres of rap and hip hop is that, as a general rule, the mainstream artists don’t act out against misogynistic or homophobic lyrics.
I mean, wasn’t it last summer when the big song was,
“Now I don’t wanna be disrespectful/ but damn, she’s a sexy bitch”, and I don’t understand when comparing someone to a female dog became a term of endearment.
Where was the outrage when Kanye said he’d do anything for a blonde dyke and she’d do anything for the limelight?
Sure, there’s the Flobots and the Talib Kwelis and the Public Enemys but for every one of them, how many Eminems and Royce da 59s and Nicki Minajs get airtime?
So really: from what I see? The good artists don’t get recognition and the really unpleasant artists—the ones with the hateful lyrics—get all the fame and money and airtime.
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Wow, this thread is insane, it just won’t die. It’s like that time the Lolitas got offended. As I’ve said before: my...
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It’s not like any genre is safe, there’s apparently a song by some metal band called ‘Indie Fags Fuck Off’ they can...
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In one sentence, the OP is able to succinctly define rape culture, yet assumes that hip-hop is uniquely overflowing with...
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isn’t misogynist listen...coup. or dead prez. or probably way more i still haven’t...
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Is it surely not better to say “I don’t like music that has homophobic/misogynistic/crude content in it” rather than...
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Jesus Christ this whole conversation makes my head hurt. As if there’s no rap or hip-hop in existence that ISN’T sexist...
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[gif of Nikki tossing her hair with a bored ‘really don’t care’ look on her face] Here’s some more songs with...
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Man, these conversations… And that description of hip hop is a bit, I used to dislike hip hop (not because women and gay...
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idk i just kind of side eye when it comes down to “here are three examples of shitty lyrics in a genre therefore IT IS...
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racist, heterosexist + misogynistic slurs
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Bravo all! To address Nicki Minaj’s lyric I’d suggest you listen...Bizzle who doesn’t...
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omg heart-goggles for nicki minaj, yes.
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Not to mention the fact that there are rap songs and hip hop without a whit of misogyny or homophobia. Or that there’s a...
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I’ma need them to go read StevieMcFly’s post
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homophobia and misogyny...almost always brought up as a reason to
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no I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING but see, that nicki verse is problematic only if you consider women expressing their...
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