The Unpopular Opinions of a Post-Modern Prep

Respectfully Disagree

missvoltairine:

karnythia:

super-eklectic1:

karnythia:

moniquill:

goddessofcheese:

hamburgerjack:

hifi-superstar:

segastarlit:

rinlockhart:

little-chicle:

pah:

from this father’s message to his daughter

That guy had every right to do that to that laptop. FIVE STARS FOR THE BEST OLD SCHOOL DAD…he could’ve sold it to get back the money he used for the software he used on it before finding that post but thats not the point.

The point is that all you kids who have ipods/iphones, laptops, consoles, and flat screens that are from your parents be greatful.

IT DOES NOT FUCKING HURT TO DO CHORES AROUND THE FUCKIN’ HOUSE[That your parents most likley PAYING FOR]. SHIT! I Love my mama ad she was already working like 2 jobs! I PAYED FOR MY OWN FUCKING PS2 BY WORKING ODD JOBS AT THE AGE OF 12. saving my own lunch money too. Then when my mom finally got me my first iPod[the fucking small ass shuffle] YOU BEST BELIEVE I DID CHORES LIKE A MUTHUHFUCKUH!

So next time you talk shit about your parents THINK AGAIn and remember ALL THE SHIT that they payed for because YOU wanted it……spoiled lil shits…..

DAMN….Cant stand spoiled people…

If he believes this was the right thing to do, I support it. Children have become spoiled and sometimes need some hard lessons to learn from.

BEST EXAMPLE OF PARENTING.

Standing ovation.

*applause*

LOL THIS CHILD. I had to do pretty much ALL of those chores and others. It’s called helping your damn parents because they put a roof over your head and feed your ass. The only money I got until I was 16 was for lunch money and a minimum allowance that was usually about $10 a week, and that was IFFFF my mother had extra cash.

I hate to sound like a jaded old lady at the age of 23, but kids these days are spoiled as shit.

Unpopular opinion time:

No.

This is not ok.

If you have fucked up so badly at parenting that your kid is making posts like the above, property destruction and implied violence aren’t appropriate responses. This is not how functional adult people behave.

Hannah, in the video, doesn’t respect her father.

Given that her father invades her privacy, undermines her personal agency, and doesn’t have basic trust for her….I fully comprehend why she doesn’t. Respect is earned and taught. If Hannah posts giant, frustrated rants about her chore load, it probably implies that she doesn’t feel that her efforts are appreciated or that she’s an integral member of the family or household (alienation and over individuation is a huge problem for teens; it’s part of the formation of adult identity separate from parents and kind of a huge trap.

Teenagers are frustrated because their lives are absurd. They’re expected to have adult behavior with no adult agency. Maturity and decision making are learned skills. If parents don’t like the way their teens are behaving, they need to ask themselves where that behavior was learned. If she feels entitled, what have you been doing -her entire life- to communicate the real value of what she has and should be grateful for? If she refers to the woman who cleans for you as ‘the cleaning lady’ is that because she’s noted that you treat that woman that way? Asking for payment for work is not unreasonable; it’s an understanding of capitalism. A less asshat response than ‘are you out of your mind’ would be a basic rundown of the costs of the household in terms of food, heating, etc and what percentage of that Hannah should reasonably be responsible for. Given that she has no economic agency of her own, expressing to her that her chores are a means of repayment for that.

I grew up -poor- and my parents were still giving me an allowance by the time I was ten because that’s how you teach kids how to manage earned income. I received a dollar a week (upgraded to five dollars a week when I was 12) for completing a list of chores. If they weren’t done, I didn’t get paid. Just like you don’t get paid at a job if you don’t show up. My parents also stopped buying luxury items for me around that age and made me buy them myself with earned and saved income from my chores, babysitting, recycling cans, making crafts and selling them, whatever. My parents helped me find jobs and gave me suggestions about what I could so to earn money. If Hannah is fifteen, she cannot legally obtain most forms of employment; has she been educated as to what economic opportunities are available to her? Because as a parent EDUCATING HER IS, IN FACT, YOUR JOB. You got her an application and made her apply? Did you take her with you and teach her the process of how to obtain applications and where to look for places that are hiring? Did you make sure the place you got the application from accepts underage employees (most do not) or walk her through the application process in terms of how to make herself an attractive applicant?

‘When I was your age I’d moved out of the house, lived on my own, went to college while in highschool, worked two jobs, was a volunteer fireman’…. Uh….huh. And you didn’t manage to impart any of this work ethic on your children, apparently. Also: You grew up in a very different economy, as a man. I’m willing to bet you had parents or other helpful adults who made you aware of the opportunities available to you. You are judging your daughter for having a different outcome than you had, when she sure as shit didn’t have the same input.

Hannah is acting out in the most trivial of ways: Ranting and commiserating with friends. and even THAT outlet is being denied her. All the people above who liked and lauded this: Would you think it was awesome if Hanna was an adult woman who’d posted a frustrated rant about her significant other, and this was the significant other’s response? Or would you consider this to be emotional abuse and a redflag for accelerating relationship violence? Because that’s what this is: Emotional abuse. This is abusive parenting (looks like it’s in the wake of/a response to earlier emotionally negligent parenting, too).

If your kid is a spoiled brat? It is not the kid’s fault. Kids aren’t born spoiled brats. Parental behavior causes this. This man is reaping the seeds he has sewn, and because he’s unsatisfied with what his efforts have yielded, he’s responding with aggression and punishment and social humiliation.

That is -fucked up-. You are a -shitty parent-. You are not training your child to be a functional adult.If you child lacks life skills, if your child does not respect you, if your child cannot think critically or understand the value of money or comprehend the importance of maintaining a household THAT IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT. This kind of extreme behavior is SERIOUSLY too little too late, and an act of aggressive desperation because YOU FUCKED UP.

If I were advising Hannah in this situation? I’d be helping her figure out ways to get the fuck away from these people and hook her up with resources that would teach her actual life skills.

Worth noting? This dude is shooting in what is clearly a residential area. That is unsound (though not necessarily criminal in his locality) behavior. This is not something to be celebrated. Property destruction and implied violence are not things to be celebrated. Emotional abuse in response to shitty teen behavior that results from bad parenting in the first place is not something to be celebrated.

This whole fucking family needs to get to family counseling STAT.

I don’t believe shit this dude is saying for a host of reasons including the bullets he put in her computer. Applaud if you want to, but I bet a video camera focused on her day to day life would tell a very interesting (and fucked up) story about unrealistic expectations.

naw dog she lucky he didn’t whoop her ass…if i talked to my parents like that yall would be attending my funeral…i had to do chores and go to school too and my family was broke as hell you don’t complain about that shit you do it and shut the hell up about it because that’s what you’re supposed to do…him shooting that laptop was MINOR trust.

But she didn’t talk to him like that, she ranted to her friends in a filter. And frankly shooting up her property isn’t something we would cosign in any other relationship, so why we’re supposed to be cosigning it here eludes me. My mother would do some shit like this, she was big on destroying my things or taking them to teach me a lesson. Meanwhile she wasn’t buying me much of shit (including food), but she made me so she owned me & nothing else mattered. I don’t speak to that woman today. At all. And I am a parent of a teenager who rants on Facebook or on the phone & I don’t destroy his things or act like his emotions are invalid because he’s turning 13 & full of woe. Mostly I roll my eyes & tell him to take his bad attitude in his room until he’s over it or we talk it out. Because he deserves that respect & also because I love my kids & I want to have a relationship with them when they are adults. These parents are going to be the ones on the estranged message boards crying about how they gave their kid everything & she just dumped them when she was an adult. Emotional abusers have little to no societal feedback that tells them their behavior is wrong, much less that it can have permanent consequences for the people they’ve hurt & for them. That’s a problem & the behavior on display here isn’t good parenting. It isn’t even parenting. It’s a man with a lot of power & a gun terrorizing his daughter.

Yeah, I mean, if I talked like that to my parents they might have pulled some shit like this (property destruction & invasion of privacy were things my mom was really big on when I was a kid)… I get the impulse to laugh along at “back in the day”-style parenting, but you guys, not EVERYTHING about that kind of harshness is okay.

I’ve seen this kind of property damage and let me tell you from experience: it’s a short fucking step for someone who uses a gun to keep someone in line to go from using that gun on their property to using that gun on them. The message being sent here isn’t “be more respectful and do your chores”. It’s “These bullets are for you but I’m putting them into your laptop instead of your body, THIS TIME, so you better fall in line or next time you might not be so lucky”. This is CLASSIC abuser behavior, okay? CLASSIC. It’s fucking textbook and EVERY SINGLE ABUSER that I’ve ever known in an intimate context has pulled shit like this.

And I mean, I get it - it’s fun to mock kids who are more coddled and sheltered than I was, because I feel resentful of the fact that there are kids who get to be that fucking naive and obtuse and still have everything handed to them. It’s cathartic for me to think & say shit like, “man, if I talked like that, I would have had my ass beat, that kid doesn’t know how good they’ve got it, a beating like I got would straighten them out REAL quick, ha ha”. But there’s a difference between spanking a 7 year old and shooting up their laptop.

oh my god. you know, on the most common version of Power and Control Wheel, it says displays weapons. NOT even using them to destroy possessions, but just keeping them visible is a common tactic of intimidation and abuse.

and yeah, destroying possessions is on there too of course.

fuck this guy and all the people celebrating this shit.

I’m going to have to respectfully disagree.

Would this have been any better if the gun had not been involved, and he’d just stomped on the screen a bit? This is obviously not the first time she’s posted stuff like that on facebook, and he’s warned and grounded her prior.
(At the very least you think she’d have learned not to put stuff on facebook. Don’t kids these days know about a private livejournal or something? Jesus. If you’re gonna be dumb, you gotta be smart about it.)

There’s a difference between intimidation/abuse and disciplining your child, and frankly, I think this is the latter. The video with the judge that was making the rounds a while back is an example of abuse. This really isn’t anywhere near that.
It’s obvious from his accent that he’s in a Southern state (judging by the Stetson I’ll venture Texas) and so guns are probably more common and she’d be more familiar with them. He’s shooting into the ground so the odds of a bullet ricocheting are slim, aren’t they? And he’s not doing this around his kid—so it’s not a threat to her. If he pulled her outside and said “This is what I do to people who disagree with me”, then that’d be different, but making a point by destroying property that he paid for? Isn’t abuse.

That laptop was never hers—she did not buy it with her own money. It was a loaner from the Bank of Dad and as such, it’s really his to do what he likes with.
Additionally: even from her own post, it sounds like she’s a bit of a brat.
The way she referred to a family friend as the ‘cleaning lady’ (who is doing a trade off for IT services which implies she probably can’t afford to pay for them straight up which implies that she’s probably a bit lower on the class scale which implies that this kid might be a bit of a snoot) is really telling.

Frankly, I don’t see much of a problem with this.
The kid posted something on facebook and got caught. Her father made a point by damaging some of HIS OWN property. The most embarassing part is the fact that it’s up on youtube—but she’d put it up on facebook anyway.

(Which, and I know this is getting TL;DR, implies to me that she probably isn’t superterrorizedsoscared at home, either. Kids with abusive parents generally get a bit more adept at survival strategies like hiding. their. rants. Like, when I was a little 16 year old baby dyke afraid of my mom finding out, my laptop was fucking Fort Knox. Password protected, hidden facebook accounts that I maintained simultaneously, secret Private-mode livejournals to serve as a diary (under an assumed name, etc). I was paranoid, because I was legit afraid that I’d get kicked out. This kid, all la-la-la on facebook? Doesn’t strike me as someone who’s in any way afraid of her parents.)

So: It’s a dad, busting up some of his property, and posting a rant to youtube. It’s his stuff, so it’s allowed, and it’s a rant video, so it’ll probably become old news within a week, when the next Cute Sloth!video gets posted or something.