I dont like rap and it has nothing to do with race.

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I think ppl forget that just bc they’re not actively thinkin “I dont like rap/hip hop bc it’s black music” doesn’t mean that anti-black racism doesn’t figure into those blanket statements/opinions in the 1st place. OPINIONS AREN’T FORMED IN A VACUUM.

Yup, this exactly.

And in my experience, more often than not, after talking to these “I don’t like hip hop/rap AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE” people for .5 seconds, their anti-black racism shows anyways.

You are both totally right and your logic is flawless. You have unraveled the complexities of human nature in just a few sentences, which is at least commendable. Thanks for making me realize that, just because people aren’t actively thinking “i don’t like tacos because it’s mexican food” doesn’t mean that they’re not actually racist. They most probably are, especially if they’re white. And if they say that they’re allergic to an ingredient, i will now know that it’s probably their white supremacy manifesting itself in their bodily functions and oozing out of their nostrils when they sneeze.

…Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you on about.

I’m someone who doesn’t like rap music and doesn’t appreciate idiots making assumptions about why that is.

I don’t like hip-hop or rap, and it has nothing to do with race.
I don’t like it because as a rule? it’s pretty damn homophobic and it’s pretty misogynistic and I don’t like my music telling me that I can *beep* that *beep* up and *beep* the *beep* *beep*. Half the time, so many words are *beeeped* out that I can barely tell what they’re *beeping* saying.

Also, I really hate my sexuality being something that’s performed for the benefit of some man, ala “My Girlfriend’s Gotta Girlfriend” and that Nicki Minaj song about going to go see Usher and that Kanye song about Klondike Bars.

Which has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the fact that I find it distasteful and crude. So, yeah.

Your painting of hip hop and rap as a “distasteful and crude” monolith is misinformed, ignorant, reductionist, and bigoted as fuck. Your choosing to magically remove the ties that hip hop and rap has to the African American community is only to alleviate any guilt you might have about your ignorant opinions of the genre. The blackness of hip hop and rap is inextricable with hip hop and rap. Simple as that. That can’t be ignored when people criticize it. You think you’re the first basic motherfuck to come out and say this shit? Really? Sit the fuck down.

TL:DR-Thanks for proving my point marvleously!

“Heard they’d do anything for a Klondike/ well, I’ll do anything for a blonde dyke/ and she’ll do anything for the limelight/ and we’ll do anything when the time’s right” —”Stronger”, Kanye West

“Y’all niggas intellects mad slow/ all ya fags know/ Claimin’ you bangin, you flamin’/ bet you could light your own cigarette with your asshole”
“I might rap tight as the snatch of a fat dyke” — “Fast Lane” —Eminem & Royce Da 5’9

“How bought I cum all on your dick and then lick it off?/ I mean it’s somethin’ so funny when it get soft/ I like to play wit’ it, squeeze it like a stress ball/ He said he like to hear the sound of me slurpin it” -“Freaky Girl” —Nicki Minaj

Those are just a few of the examples I can think of off the top of my heard wherein rap and hip-hop are specifically crude, derogatory or discriminatory. That has nothing to do with the colour of the rapper’s skin (Eminem being white and all), and everything to do with the fact that I have no desire to monetarily or socially support a style of music that degrades others.
So why don’t you take that inchoate rage and go spew it somewhere else? I have no problems whatsoever with Black Culture or music—jazz, blues, gospel, funk and soul are all brilliant and challenging as a musician and I can appreciate them with full enthusiasm. I can appreciate the Black contribution to reggaeton and merengue and salsa. But I cannot in good faith support a musical genre that advocates ‘snitches get stitches’ and calling people ‘fat dykes’ and ‘faggots’, and I am well within my rights to say that I find the music unappealing and frankly, a little warped.

And I’ll even say it again: I don’t like rap, and it has nothing to do with race.

WHOA. you do realize that the prominence of misogyny, homophobia, and violence in rap came about at the same time white male teenagers became the primary record buyers though right? shit is complicated and none of these things are inherent to hip-hop. it’s a little strange to see someone talk about how a musical genre can “advocate” anything - i’m sure none of the homohop artists out there advocate calling people homophobic slurs. and anti-snitching culture is also complicated and in part has its roots in….. the fucked up relationship between police/P.I.C. and poor communities/communities of color.

I am aware of the correlation, but the fact of the matter still stands. Mainstream rap (and I’m not talking about more independent artists (of which I am familiar with a few, Flobots and Lady Sovereign spring to mind the quickest, who will, as a rule, be a bit more queer-positive) is still an incredibly hostile environment for gays and women.
Regardless of the reason behind the attitude (be it pandering to a suburban white teenager or as a deeply held belief of their own), I consider it abhorrent that it’s even getting said. That has nothing to do with the colour of anyone’s skin. Eminem is as lily-white as they they come, and I still find his music to be (as a general rule) aggressively homophobic and misogynistic and consequently, I avoid it. That’s not racist, that’s exercising my right as a consumer to avoid music that goes out of it’s way to insult me.

As for the snitching-etc thing, I concede the point: that stems from some really messed up interactions between PoC and the police. I would agree, and I do think that needs to be remedied ASAP because the situation isn’t getting better.

But as a general rule, when I listen to music I’m attempting to relax, and listening to the mainstream rap artists talk about beating someone, and talking about how a blonde dyke’ll do anything for the limelight aren’t exactly condusive to easy listening, you know?